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Caliph Muhammed
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Posted - 2012.06.03 23:01:00 -
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I'm not getting it. What exactly is able to be posted in this forum. It appears i've struck a nerve and now anything I post is removed. Yet slurs, snide remarks and general harassment isn't. Enlighten me what qualifies as a general discussion of EVE? |
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Posted - 2012.06.03 23:11:00 -
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It almost feels like i'm being discriminated against. |
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Posted - 2012.06.03 23:53:00 -
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Can we get a list of Goon approved topics? |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 00:20:00 -
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I guess the HTFU crew aren't astute enough to answer the question. Wouldn't it make sense to provide a summary of acceptable topics? Or if it is less of a time constraint, topics that are not allowed. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 01:16:00 -
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Noted VV. So essentially using ones intellect is against the rules and posts must appear as idiotic to not upset the majority of the forum go'ers who are in fact idiotic. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 01:25:00 -
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There was no reason for either thread sans the bias moderation to be locked or moved. The others were moved to prevent general discussion of the mechanics. So stating that they were moved for the sake of being moved doesn't answer the question. Are you one of the idiots we're refering to?
And im not whining, im just not scared of consequences when I know im in the right. So why don't you scuttle of to a dark corner troglodyte?
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Posted - 2012.06.04 01:27:00 -
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Thank you good sir. Clearly an abuse of forum moderating powers if there could ever be a such thing. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 01:31:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:There was no reason for either thread sans the bias moderation to be locked or moved. The others were moved to prevent general discussion of the mechanics. So stating that they were moved for the sake of being moved doesn't answer the question. Are you one of the idiots we're refering to?
And im not whining, im just not scared of consequences when I know im in the right. So why don't you scuttle of to a dark corner troglodyte?
Look up the definition of general you simpleton before you involve yourself in a conversation of which you aren't really capable of providing any worthwhile point. Discussion of mechanics to that degree belongs in feature and ideas, and since local is a feature of EVE, it got moved to the appropriate section of the forums. This has been explained by plenty of people, so I think that the term simpleton would be more applicable to you than to me. As for you being in the right, it is clear that you are not, no matter how much you wish that you were.
No it doesn't. Because it wasn't asked in the sense of a feature or idea to be implemented. The topic revolved around how local chat generally hinders EVEs gameplay. And the third fill in the blank thread didn't mention local at all. Pure bias plain and simple. Unjust censorship and abuse of power. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 01:52:00 -
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It can end however. Im not that pressed. i'm in the right and if i'm martyred for expressing myself within the forum guidelines then OGP itll have to happen. My battle has been chosen. Let the chips fall where they may. And hopefully others will see how whats happening to me can and probably will affect them as well and respond accordingly. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:08:00 -
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Witty no? It plays on the whole Muslim stereotype. I never considered Joan, but I suppose that works too. But the word fits. When truth is silenced by oppressive tyrants those who dare speak it in spite of consequences are considered martyrs. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:13:00 -
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No im playing on the fact I often endure trolls and slurs that are based on the assumption i'm Arab Muslim do to my name. I only brought it up in answer to your comment about me using the word martyr. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:20:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:A discussion is when many people want to talk about a topic. Not when you post over and over again that you are right about your idea even though not that many people are agreeing with you. By your own admission in the thread you moved the post to the top of the forum every day. The moderators let it go on for 40 pages and then decided that you weren't going to relent in the discussion and moved it. You have not been censored. Your thread is where people can read and post to it if they like.
This thread will likely be locked again because you are discussing forum moderation again, and that's not allowed. You don't really have free speech here, to the degree that you get to make the rules. Have your crusade if you want, and enjoy yourself.
No im not discussing forum moderation im searching for a answer to the OP and unfortunately it relates to moderation but not in the sense it explicitly discusses the act of moderation.
Thats an interesting spin on what occured. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:24:00 -
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No sir i'm not fishing for inflammatory responses. Under that logic nothing that would change from 0 day could be discussed because not a single change in eve has ever occured without having upset at least one person. I genuinely believe in that which I type and to insinuate I do not is a grave insult to my character. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:30:00 -
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Shian Yang wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:No sir i'm not fishing for inflammatory responses. Under that logic nothing that would change EVE from 0 day could be discussed because not a single change in EVE has ever occured without having upset at least one person. I genuinely believe in that which I type and to insinuate I do not is a grave insult to my character. Greetings capsuleer, Then desist with this public display of rage and take it to a formal petition. As we cannot provide you with a response and it is exceptionally unlikely that CCP will provide a public response in a thread that was created and sustained to antagonise other capsuleers. Regards, Shian Yang
A petition does not allow the community to weigh in on the issue presented. And further any response recieved from the petition wouldn't be allowed to be discussed with the public. Therefore what you are suggesting is in essence never posting that which I feel affects the community in any way that the community would be allowed to involve themselves in the discussion. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:32:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:If you really want to know what is and is not acceptable in GD then read the forum rules. If you have questions about the forum rules ask the forum moderators. Don't make yet another post questioning it and then berate anyone who dares answer.
I did read the rules, and I didnt find anything either of my posts violated sans discussing moderating bias. And I never drew first blood in the threads and no action or moderation was taken against those who did. So don't slap me with the whip and then cry out in pain. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:34:00 -
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Take this post as a perfect example. Was anyone berated in the OP? Then on page one who started the berating? Is it removed. Are they still in the thread posting unhindered? I guess we have to learn to appreciate selective application of the rules. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:36:00 -
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File a petition and ask them to. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:38:00 -
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Cutter Isaacson wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:Shian Yang wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:No sir i'm not fishing for inflammatory responses. Under that logic nothing that would change EVE from 0 day could be discussed because not a single change in EVE has ever occured without having upset at least one person. I genuinely believe in that which I type and to insinuate I do not is a grave insult to my character. Greetings capsuleer, Then desist with this public display of rage and take it to a formal petition. As we cannot provide you with a response and it is exceptionally unlikely that CCP will provide a public response in a thread that was created and sustained to antagonise other capsuleers. Regards, Shian Yang A petition does not allow the community to weigh in on the issue presented. And further any response recieved from the petition wouldn't be allowed to be discussed with the public. Therefore what you are suggesting is in essence never posting that which I feel affects the community in any way that the community would be allowed to involve themselves in the discussion. You are questioning forum moderation, a discussion that one of us can have, hence Shians suggestion that you take this to a petition.
No im not. Im asking for clarification on topics that are allowed or disallowed in EVE general discussion and toying with incompetents. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:40:00 -
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No the community does not. Just because you state it doesn't make it so. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:41:00 -
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Vanria Vexed wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:If you really want to know what is and is not acceptable in GD then read the forum rules. If you have questions about the forum rules ask the forum moderators. Don't make yet another post questioning it and then berate anyone who dares answer. I did read the rules, and I didnt find anything either of my posts violated sans discussing moderating bias. And I never drew first blood in the threads and no action or moderation was taken against those who did. So don't slap me with the whip and then cry out in pain. Once again to repeat something that was stated before that you fail to understand; these forums belong to CCP, hence their property. They can do with it as they see fit, even censor people, so conduct your self accordingly to the rules even with loose interpretations of the rules.
I would be glad to and have thus far, sans discussing of forum topics that are not listed as incompatible with EVE general chat and asking for clarification of those un noted yet apparently taboo subjects. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:44:00 -
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It appears English comprehension isn't your strong point. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:47:00 -
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This isn't relevant to the current topic. I know where the thread is. This topic once again for the daft byproduct of western education is about clarification of topics that are allowed in EVE general discussion.
If there is a subforum for every topic of EVE then what is General Discussions purpose? Is it to ask A/S/L/ of EVE players? Enlighten me. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 02:54:00 -
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Okay can you provide an example of a topic that would fall under EVE General Discussion while not falling under another subforum. And If you can't could it be stated that the rules are selectively applied to posters and or ideas that certain people do not care for? And in doing so what that not indicate clear bias on a party that professes neutrality for the sake of the game? |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 03:01:00 -
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Once again can we get one example of a topic that would uniformly fall under general discussion?
Or are we at the point of open air admission of bias? |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 03:07:00 -
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No I don't. There seems to be no apparent ruleset that determines whether something falls under general discussion. Which takes us back to open air admission of bias and censorship. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 03:10:00 -
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You're right I never will because people who struggle defending a position are linking random various posts in an attempt to convey some format that the rules follow. When by the postings linked show that precisely no format exists. Its not unwillingness. its incompetent instruction. Essentially the rules are made up on the fly and used to silence critique or opinion whoever is moderating decides unworthwhile. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 03:14:00 -
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Or said another way, open air bias and prejudice. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 03:17:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:If you really want to know what is and is not acceptable in GD then read the forum rules. If you have questions about the forum rules ask the forum moderators. Don't make yet another post questioning it and then berate anyone who dares answer.
Caliph Muhammed wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote:If you really want to know what is and is not acceptable in GD then read the forum rules. If you have questions about the forum rules ask the forum moderators. Don't make yet another post questioning it and then berate anyone who dares answer. I did read the rules, and I didnt find anything either of my posts violated sans discussing moderating bias. And I never drew first blood in the threads and no action or moderation was taken against those who did. So don't slap me with the whip and then cry out in pain.
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Posted - 2012.06.04 03:23:00 -
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If by freedom you mean to overtly display bias and prejudice you are correct. But to go on fraudulently proclaiming yourself fair and impartial in all things EVE, you're wrong. The last time the community was treated as a worthless factor the company downsized. Are you sure thats the best course of action? |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 05:31:00 -
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I do not rant or ramble. I try and present an argument as concise as possible. To state otherwise is being intellectually dishonest. None of you are moderators, get a life.
Also you'll note that i'm not banned. You want to know why? Because I haven't violated any rules in spite of the lemmings parroting that fallacy. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 05:40:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Caliph Muhammed wrote:If by freedom you mean to overtly display bias and prejudice you are correct. But to go on fraudulently proclaiming yourself fair and impartial in all things EVE, you're wrong. The last time the community was treated as a worthless factor the company downsized. Are you sure thats the best course of action? They are not treating the community as a worthless factor tho. Just you.
And you as well when you decide to discuss a topic they find too disruptive or difficult to answer. You just sit back, drink a soda and buy a monocle from the nex store lemming. |
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Posted - 2012.06.04 05:45:00 -
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Im not disagreeable. If we can get a concise listing of acceptable topics that are equally applied to everyone as well as posting rules applied in the same fashion i'd gladly do so. You can't expect me to guess at it can you?
I have an inclination that if The Mittani decided local had to go he wouldn't have his posts removed.
But alas were getting off topic, a forum violation! The topic is what topics are acceptable for general discussion?
And for the daft i'm looking for clarity by people who enforce the rules not an inconsequential trolls attempt at stating factually that which has never been factually stated. |
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